{"id":7478,"date":"2021-05-16T14:36:16","date_gmt":"2021-05-16T13:36:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/?p=7478"},"modified":"2021-05-16T14:43:38","modified_gmt":"2021-05-16T13:43:38","slug":"victorian-book-form-plate-holder-on-intrepid-8x10-camera","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/archives\/7478","title":{"rendered":"Victorian book-form, whole-plate holder on Intrepid 8&#215;10 camera"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I&#8217;ve got a routine going of pouring my own 4&#215;5&#8243; gelatine silver plates and then scanning them and inkjet printing the results but I&#8217;ve felt unsettled because I would like to have a 100% analogue process, [AAA] in stead fo [ADD]. To address this I&#8217;ve been messing with salt printing some of my 4&#215;5&#8243; plates. It works quite well because they are very contrasty. Simple silver emulsion plates are generally too contrasty to print on modern photographic papers. The downside of contact printing 4&#215;5&#8243; plates is the resulting prints are so small. I&#8217;ve therefore been experimenting with different ways to work with larger glass plates and over the last couple of weeks have built myself an adapter back so I can shoot Whole-plate (6.5&#215;8.5&#8243;) Victorian book-form holders on my Intrepid 8&#215;10.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210501_092057713-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210501_092057713-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-7479\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210501_092057713-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210501_092057713-640x480.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210501_092057713-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210501_092057713-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210501_092057713-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210501_092057713-1280x960.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>I built the adapter to replace the whole back of the Intrepid by layering 3mm plywood sheets cut on a Dremel jigsaw at the kitchen table.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210430_204808774-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"961\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210430_204808774-961x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-7480\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210430_204808774-961x1024.jpg 961w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210430_204808774-601x640.jpg 601w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210430_204808774-768x818.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210430_204808774-1441x1536.jpg 1441w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210430_204808774-1922x2048.jpg 1922w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210430_204808774-1280x1364.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 961px) 100vw, 961px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Key thing was to get magnets in my back to match the polarity of those in the Intrepid back. I did this by sticking them to the old back and marking them with nail polish.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210502_165028497-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210502_165028497-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-7481\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210502_165028497-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210502_165028497-480x640.jpg 480w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210502_165028497-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210502_165028497-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210502_165028497-1280x1707.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210502_165028497-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>I then araldited them in place and sanded off the mess when it had dried.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_103437033-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1022\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_103437033-1022x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-7482\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_103437033-1022x1024.jpg 1022w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_103437033-640x640.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_103437033-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_103437033-768x769.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_103437033-1533x1536.jpg 1533w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_103437033-2044x2048.jpg 2044w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_103437033-1280x1282.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1022px) 100vw, 1022px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>I bought a set of 3 immaculate plate holders from eBay for \u00a365. (I also bought two others for \u00a325 but they were slightly different design so I decided to match the back to just these holders). This is really cheap compared to contemporary large plate holders!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_131835411-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"942\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_131835411-942x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-7487\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_131835411-942x1024.jpg 942w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_131835411-589x640.jpg 589w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_131835411-768x835.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_131835411-1413x1536.jpg 1413w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_131835411-1884x2048.jpg 1884w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_131835411-1280x1392.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 942px) 100vw, 942px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>I made a plywood frame to hold the focus screen, which I ground myself. Distance to the &#8220;film&#8221; plane was 7mm which I matched with two sheets of 3mm ply and a little aluminium shim. Looking at the initial results the focus seems pretty much spot on.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_085408822-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_085408822-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-7484\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_085408822-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_085408822-640x480.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_085408822-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_085408822-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_085408822-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_085408822-1280x960.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>With some sanding and messing about the holders fit snuggly and didn&#8217;t appear to leak when I did my flashing light test on them. So yesterday it was out for first light at my usual test location in Edinburgh! <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_110220342-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"895\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_110220342-895x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-7485\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_110220342-895x1024.jpg 895w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_110220342-560x640.jpg 560w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_110220342-768x878.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_110220342-1343x1536.jpg 1343w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_110220342-1791x2048.jpg 1791w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210515_110220342-1280x1464.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 895px) 100vw, 895px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>The plates looked great, although I need to work on my pouring technique for larger plates as they clearly hadn&#8217;t set fully before I moved them to the drying rack. No light leaks though and in focus. I feel quite chuffed.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_124645996-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"813\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_124645996-813x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-7486\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_124645996-813x1024.jpg 813w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_124645996-508x640.jpg 508w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_124645996-768x967.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_124645996-1220x1536.jpg 1220w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_124645996-1626x2048.jpg 1626w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_124645996-1280x1612.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/www.hyam.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/PXL_20210516_124645996-scaled.jpg 2033w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 813px) 100vw, 813px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>I&#8217;m quite pleased with the finish salt print, produced at a leisurely pace on the same day I took the photo. I do need to work on my salt printing technique though.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>So now I need to take stock of where I go with this next. The Intrepid works well and has a wide range of movements but using it for whole-plate sizes does involve carrying a larger camera than necessary. This counts for a lot as three mahogany plate holders containing six sheets of 2mm glass weighs quite a lot on its own. A Victorian whole-plate camera may be a better way to work with this format but they have fewer movements and finding one in a useable condition may be a challenge.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another thought that occurs is adding an expansion back to the Intrepid. I&#8217;ve always wanted to have a go on a 7&#215;17&#8243; banquette camera. I could build a back and a couple of plate holders to fit the Intrepid using the same basic approach. The result wouldn&#8217;t be particularly portable but the idea is crazy enough to be appealing and who knows, it might just work!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve got a routine going of pouring my own 4&#215;5&#8243; gelatine silver plates and then scanning them and inkjet printing the results but I&#8217;ve felt unsettled because I would like to have a 100% analogue process, [AAA] in stead fo [ADD]. 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